• Peter Bateman
    Press columnist Mike Yardley wrote this good piece about e-scooters but rather spoiled it by including this lazy pot-shot about H&S:
    "You would think that in this age, when we have health and safety regulations strangling virtually every other aspect of our daily lives, even the most basic regulatory safety framework should have been implemented here, before Lime was allowed to unleash hundreds of these gimmicky wheeled wonders on our streets."
    This is a commonly held view: that businesses are being "strangled" by H&S "red tape".
    Can Forum members come up with a short, pithy, printable response to this common assertion? One that we could trot out to demolish this unsubstantiated argument?
  • Craig Marriott
    Difficult, because I can't honestly say that he's wrong. But I think it's more a case of misinformed people misinterpreting legal requirements and dodgy salespeople peddling fear of prosecution than it is H&Sper se doing the strangling.
    Well thought out, well implemented, pragmatic H&S is genuinely beneficial to businesses.
    Although, it is fair to say that a knee jerk response to a brand new issue prompting calls for regulation rather than a smart solution might be a part of the problem. Pot, kettle?
    I don't think a pithy response is going to elicit much more than a, "yeah, right!" We just need to do it sensibly and do it well and the tide will turn - although a few links to the UKHSE myth busting page wouldn't go amiss.
  • Sheri Greenwell
    Businesses are only 'strangled' by health and safety requirements when they don't understand them well enough to develop appropriate and effective safety management systems and processes. It all comes down to getting clarity about the purpose and intent and continually refining the processes - always asking if there is a better (more effective / efficient) way to achieve the desired objectives.

    In addition, it helps a lot when businesses recognise that safe workplaces are actually a reasonably predictable outcome for organisations that operate according to complementary skills and tools of effective leadership practices and functional management. This includes clarity of purpose, shared values, meaningful consultation and communication, vision and foresight, planning, integrated processes, supervision and monitoring, measurement and reporting, and those responsible at the top keeping track of organisational performance proactively enough to provide responsive guidance and action when things start to veer off track.
  • Sheri Greenwell
    It doesn't help that most safety and compliance training typically consists mainly of telling the audience WHAT the law says, without conveying the WHY behind it. Even many so-called safety professionals struggle to explain why or the purpose / intent behind requirements - just keep perpetuating it 'because the law says we have to".

    I'm reminded of the story where a man asked his wife why she cut off both ends of the roast before placing it in the roasting pan. His wife shrugged her shoulders and explained that was what her mother had always done. So the man asked his mother-in-law, who also shrugged and could only offer that it was what her mother had always done. So the man went to his wife's grandmother who explained that when she first got married, the only roasting pan they had was too short, so she cut the ends off to make the roast fit!

    Having come from a background of working with quality management systems at the time when ISO9001 was just starting to be implemented, I found - then as well as now - that many people simply don't understand and are not in the habit of asking further questions to understand the principles behind the rules (and often regulators enact 'knee-jerk' regulatory requirements that similarly lack the rigour of deeper consideration in their haste to be seen to be taking action). When people lack understanding and seek the relative comfort of certainty, they will often look for an organisation or practitioner who seems to know what they are doing and just copy their systems and processes entirely or nearly entirely by rote - this is how organisations acquire systems and processes that are not fit for purpose, and often that don't really contribute to safer workplaces. Given these contributing factors, we shouldn't be surprised that most managers and workers consider most health and safety systems to be bureaucratic paperwork.

    One last comment on this: in effective safety management systems, the paperwork is only the documentation that captures the processes used for risk assessment and implementation of controls; the paperwork is never "the process" itself.
  • Simon Lawrence
    Peter, dare I suggest we don't need a "short, pithy and printable" response to Mike Yardley? Sorry, but journos these days have largely forgotten that dispassionate and balanced reporting of facts is part of their profession. They are part-time entertainers now.

    In other words, he knew he was being a prat. The last thing he wants is a dose of common sense to spoil his party.
  • Michael Wilson
    Health & Safety is about enabling a business to do what they do. It is about getting things to go right as often as possible. Bruce Lee has a saying "You must be shapeless, formless, like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can drip and it can crash. Become like water my friend"

    Health and safety is it's perfect form (not that it has been achieved) would be a seamless part of the business that is just "how we do things". It is about keeping the business and it's people moving in the same way marketing, or operations are.

    Anyone can skydive once but it take health & safety to skydive twice.
  • Rob Carroll
    Ask Mike to validate his argument with evidence. He will show you rules that the business themselves have put it place.......... who is to blame for that , if not the businesses themselves?
  • Graham Neate
    The best way to avoid having H & S strangle a business is to integrate it into the organisations operations. Do that, and it will no longer be seen as a cost, instead, it will become part of what they do.
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