Having personally experiencing the loss of a child in a workplace incident I feel I'm well positioned to speak here. I agree the need for real penalties should be dramatically increased along with other penalties like barring CEO's and executive from holding management positions for a significant period if there are proved to be negligent. This would bring the safety of our loved ones right into their field of vision. I believe Industrial manslaughter was first introduced in Queensland and I'm a strong supporter of this. I do believe it has already changed the attitudes of senior management. And guess what everyone is still doing business, just a little smarter. This legislation will happen in NZ. It's not a mater of if, it's just a matter of when. If you think the workplace fine was too much, then ask yourself what is the value of a life.